coming to Cheenu, wonderful explanations - i do agree that it cant be Macha ( fish)

http://www.poetryinstone.in/lang/en/2008/11/11/a-unique-depiction-of-vishnu.html

( incidentally the last two images in that post are subjects for further arguments - as they are identified as hayagreevar - and i think they are right !!)

Kannan sir - two things against Varaham - First is mouth - if i were to depict a boar ( usually the form is depicted with face turned sidewards - very rare to see front facing - but again given the earlier rare depiction of the Macha - even if it were the Varaha / Boar, the snout would have extended outwards - and presume when vandalised, it wouldn’t leave the mouth line in how it looks now.

Again on the earth, its too early a sculpture to portray the earth as spherical - early varaha and varaha’s of this period show the earth only as the mother and not spherical. As regards artistic mistake - don’t think so, look at the detailing and perfection in fashioning the conch and the discus.

but the point of the two ladies is something to think more about.

There is one another sculpture of the same group / style which can give us some definite clues. will post as part 2.

vj

But VJ I would value your opinion also equally. You and Kathie may like to comment.

I think to a large extent even Kannan’s synopsis looks correct. On a close up the face looks more like a pig (certainly it does not look like a monkey). On that analogy it is also tempting to see the figure as Varaha moorthy.. though for the short stature and height of the accompanying consorts.. I have a doubt if they are indeed Sri Devi and Bhoodevi, are they not chamara-beejayis - the ones who fan the Lord.

But if they are indeed Sri and Bhoodevis, then nothing’s left to doubt.

It would be interesting to probe further on sculptures of Hanuman with Vishnu’s attributes.

here are my takes on this. The sculpture of Hanuman holding the Bana Lingam is of course part of scriptures as well as folklore and there are more than one versions of the Ramayana supporting the story behind that particular sculpture.

But the question put forth by Kathie B is quite pertinent. To a lot many people this particular picture portrayed by you as Hanuman with Bana Linga is seen as Lord Vishnu in the Matsya-avataram (so to many if not most, the face of the deity seems not like that of an ape or monkey-alike, but rather fish). It is also believed that it is Vishnu’s Matsyavataram holding the mother earth, after rescuing it from Hiranyakshan (the elder brother of Hiranyakashipu). But having looked at the close-ups, this particular sculpture has eyelashes which are attributes of human faced apes unlike fishes whose eyes have to be perfectly round without eyelashes. Even otherwise, if it was Lord Vishnu as Matsyavataram holding mother Earth, then the shape of the earth has to be round, not oblong as coming out in that sculpture.

In addition, the following I hope will be useful for the ‘background’ behind many such sculptures and the ’stories’ behind them.

Like you showed so kindly the Nandi and Hanuman having Shiva attributes.

You see in the Vishnu Divya Desam of Thiruvelliyangudi temple on the outskirts of Thanjavur (it has Kolavilli Ramar in lying posture), on the outside of the Garbagriha (as is usual in a Vishnugriha) the Garuda stands facing the reclining Lord. This particular Garuda in Thiruvelliyangudi temple is special in the sense that while like other Garudas, he stands before the Lord, in addition to that, he has the benefeaction of standing the Shankha and Chakra in his hands.. which is a rarity. Likewise, you showed and spoke about the Nandi (unusually) with attributes of Shiva.

What is the similarity between both examples? Quite easy to see, like at Velliyangudi, the Garuda, the vehicle of Vishnu has in his hands the primary weapons of the Lord, similarly the vehicle of Shiva the Nandi, in the sculpture under reference has the primary weapons of his Lord.

Similarly, my mother mentioned two more examples (I will talk to her and inform about the specific two temples) where (as in Garuda’s case in Velliyangudi) in another major temple, it is the Hanuman who has Shanka and Chakra of Lord Vishnu in his hands. In yet another temple, Goddess Laxmi is sitting alone (apparently, Lord Vishnu has gone away to earth on an Avataram with Laxmi’s role yet to be enacted) and she is missing his company. In the same sannidhi, close to her it is Parvati giving her company with Lord Vishnu having left his Shanka and Chakra close to Goddess Laxmi to remind of him. So to pacify Lakshmi, Goddess Parvati is shown as holding aloft the Shanka and Chakra of Lord Vishnu, thereby creating a likeness (or mirage) of herself, and resembling Lord Vishnu very closely.

Others may also give their take on this.

Cheenu

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